Comment: i've used the Cruiser II tourpack for two touring seasons now and it has held up great. It is rigid enough to stand on it's own. My riding partner has a Carroll bag that slumps on the seat and needs to be fixed every hour or so. Not my tourmaster. The biggest problem I have had is with the mounting system. It doesn't hold tight enough for me. I have messed around with additional leather straps and bungee cords and it is now tight enough for the twisty roads we ride.